tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11611854.post27858232210706738..comments2023-12-25T10:39:26.102-06:00Comments on Timotheos Prologizes: An Anglican Pope?Fr Timothy Matkinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10794558184459092532noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11611854.post-5967054913284201422017-01-16T11:13:22.421-06:002017-01-16T11:13:22.421-06:00Re: "We could say he was 'first among equ...Re: "We could say he was 'first among equals' but in Acts, he's not even the one to presiding over the Jerusalem council."<br /><br />As I understand it, it is tradition up through modern times that the pope does not preside over a council (at least an ecumenical council). Instead, his role is to confirm the council documents on behalf of the universal church. If you look though the documents of Vatican II, for example, it will note the date that Pope Paul VI confirmed each document and the subtle changes he sometimes made to a few sentences here and there for clarity.Fr Timothy Matkinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10794558184459092532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11611854.post-47675493743186480092015-10-14T21:32:28.300-05:002015-10-14T21:32:28.300-05:00I have read it. It wasn't terribly persuasive,...I have read it. It wasn't terribly persuasive, in my opinion. Wesley Walkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03586574931558739063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11611854.post-48586188620333026342015-10-14T12:36:37.304-05:002015-10-14T12:36:37.304-05:00I believe all the issues you raised are thoroughly...I believe all the issues you raised are thoroughly addressed in the ARCIC joint statement "The Gift of Authority" which is linked in the post and well worth the read.Fr Timothy Matkinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10794558184459092532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11611854.post-61364346899850059522015-09-29T07:08:39.385-05:002015-09-29T07:08:39.385-05:00There seem to be quite a few assertions in this po...There seem to be quite a few assertions in this post, it's hard to really know where to respond. However, the papcy is not something attested to by Scripture or tradition. Augustine questioned the meaning of Peter being the rock in Matthew 16 because he believed the point of the passage was that Christ was actually the rock (if this was the foundation for such an important doctrine as the RCC later articulated, Augustine should have been renounced by his fellow orthodox Christians). <br />Even if we're skeptical of St. Augustine's work on this passage and admit that St. Peter is in fact the rock instead of Christ, you'd be hard pressed to find a Father who would connect the promise with the institution of the papcy as it was articulated later on. <br />The real stasis point between Anglicanism and RCC on this particular issue though, is the fact that St. Peter never had jurisdiction over the other apostles. We could say he was "first among equals" but in Acts, he's not even the one to presiding over the Jerusalem council. Elsewhere, other apostles are spoken of as foundations of the Church (namely Eph. 2:20 and Rev 21:14). The promises made to Peter are also extended to the other Apostles (Matt. 18:18) and the Lord breathed on ALL the apostles (except Thomas) the words of power (John 20:21-24). Wesley Walkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03586574931558739063noreply@blogger.com